May 16, 2025

Interview with Rob Paauw – PostNL | Podcast 52

If you’ve ever felt like your CX team is pushing water uphill—mapping journeys, conducting research, collecting insights, and yet… nothing really changes—this one’s for you. Because I’ve had that feeling too. And when I spoke with Rob about how they flipped that script at PostNL, it reminded me of something we all tend to forget:

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